System Magazine has recently invited fashion pioneers Miuccia Prada and Raf Simons to discuss what it means to be a fashion designer today in an exclusive interview. Exchanging ideas in an almost three-hour conversation, the designers touch on various topics from self-censorship and the merits of running a company, to why they dream about swapping brands with other designers like Marc Jacobs. Check out the full interview here to learn more.

You can purchase the latest issue of System online and in-store at Dover Street Market, colette in Paris and 10 Corso Como in Milan beginning October 19.